WTF is my long-time fave podcast. Marc Maron is an insightful interviewer with a knack for getting people to open up in a way I don't hear on other podcasts. Betty Gilpin stars with Marc on the Netflix series Glow, and their relationship as cast mates is clear in this conversation. The revelation of this interview is Betty Gilpin's completely charming metaphor-laden view of life. How to trust people and let them in "beyond the vestibule," and being all made-up for work and feeling like a "porn poodle" were two of my faves! It's a smart conversation between two "thinky" people who don't trust surfaces or the status quo.